Since i have been up here, i have had a lot of crap talked on kansas wrestling. I find it kind of ridiculous. Our team record against kansas kids is 3- alot (2 of the matches involve ME losing too a teammate, the other is Schroeder getting beat in overtime by our captain) It makes me wonder, Who are the best kids from kansas never to win a "state title"

Shumate
Schroeder
Rush
these names come to mind

goodwin add yourself to that list.. lol

I don't know how they compare to ohters in the state but the two best from Bishop Carroll are Karl Brown (04) 124 wins with a 3rd, 2nd, and 3rd place finishs at state and JD Johnson (00) with 121 career wins with 2nd, 3rd, 5th and 2nd place finishes at state.

i know hes not really kansas kid anymore but heavyweight elijah madison took 2nd as freshman in kansas wrestling for salina central and then went on to get 3 straight 3rd place finished in mo. he lost soph and junior years to dom bradley who was ranked a #1 ranked wrestler in the country. he got upset this year in the first round by a kid who shouldnt not have beat him, he avenged that loss on the backside. hes beaten some great heavyweights in zlatnick and disney...

i dont believe st. thomas aquanis's jed mamie ever won a state title, he was in some pretty stacked weight classes, i believe his soph, junior, senior years he took 3rd, 2nd, 3rd, but i'm not sure. he was a stud though.

turner has some good kids never quite win it. matt bailes went 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, got stuck behind a kid from ark city whose name escapes me at the moment, he gave him a couple great matches but couldnt beat him. that kid beat him at least 2 of those years.

its impossible to say who the best was, but those are a few recent kids that come to mind. i saw schumate wrestle quite a bit and i def. agree that was a great kid who never came out #1 at state.

Jed Mamie took 2nd as a Junior wrestling with a broken leg. He wrestled on one knee. Pretty impressive.

If little Flynn (and I hope he does) doesn't win it this year. He definitely belongs on this list!!

Brett Fienne (sp) (Valley Center); Loved the 5 on 2...

Going back a few years but Olathe South HC Steve Mesa from Garden City. 3x runner-up (SO, JR, SR) and 3rd place finish as a Freshman

yea mamie was a tough kid, he wrestlin anywhere in college?

I believe he is at Lindenwood near St. Louis.

Cody Lambotte

I think Nick Shumate should be on that list. He was a runner up twice and 3rd his senior year

I couldn't believe Marcus Bowman never won state. Karl Brown was a great call. I remember Karl and Tanner Gardner had an epic match at Derby about 5 or so years ago. Joey Heershche is another that comes to mind.

Trevor Richard of St. Francis
2003 5th @103
2004 2nd @103
2005 2nd @112
2006 2nd @119

Rj Nill could be considered. 3x State Place,4th,3rd,2nd. And I believe, correct me if i am wrong the last guy not to get pinned or tech falled wrestling Romero Cotton.

yaaa sounds right.
Jesse Hardy
Marc Sommers
Mertins

Now that i think about it did mike steinmetz ever win one, i know he wrestled payne 3 yrs in a row, lost 3yrs in a row.

I beleive way back in late 70's or early 80's a kid from Smith Center was a 4 time runner up all to the same kid from Beloit... How that had to stink.

stienmetz was a champ his freshman year, i believe at 152. then lost to payne at 60, 71, and 71.

Brian Roberts from Kansas City Turner.

1988 3rd with only 1 loss to the state champion
1989 2nd with only 1 loss
1990 2nd with only 1 loss
1991 2nd with two losses, one loss at regionals and one at state

Kevin Callahan or Matt Noblet. One of them is not going to win a State Title

Derek Ross from St. Francis took 3rd three years in a row...

Fr:DNP
So:3rd
Jr:3rd
Sr:3rd