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Re: Best kid never to win a state title [Re: Westfahl] #120438 02/21/08 10:08 PM
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Marty Dean of Schlagle in 1993. Beat the 3A, 4A (White from Columbus 10-2), and 6A (kid from Manhatten 9-1) and lost only to Shuman of Salina South (3 timer) on a takedown in overtime in the state semi's. Marty was a pretty tough hombre at 36-1 and ended up third that year.

Re: Best kid never to win a state title [Re: SFoster] #120480 02/22/08 12:50 AM
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Steve Mesa 3rd as fresh, 3x runner up, and Brandon Cruth high school All-American and never won state.

Re: Best kid never to win a state title [Re: lylegeyer] #120485 02/22/08 01:20 AM
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wow ... is this the real Lyle Geyer!


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Re: Best kid never to win a state title [Re: tksnkc] #120487 02/22/08 01:28 AM
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Eric Stewart was the kid from Smith Center. It was in the early 80's. too young to remember if it was to the same kid all four years though.

Re: Best kid never to win a state title [Re: Red02] #120488 02/22/08 01:32 AM
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I do recall a kid that finished 1st(9th), 2nd(10th), 3rd(11th), 4th(12th). Just can't remember where his was from. I think it was bank in the late 80's early 90's

Re: Best kid never to win a state title [Re: Red02] #120513 02/22/08 04:21 AM
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Aaron Madill from Lawrence. He only lost one match his senior year.

Re: Best kid never to win a state title [Re: ErmDogg00] #120518 02/22/08 06:01 AM
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Brandon Campbell of Sabetha in the early 90's. 4A Runner up 2x and then was ranked #1 all of his Sr. year, got very sick the week of state and finished 6th after reaching the semi finals.


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Re: Best kid never to win a state title [Re: MES] #120542 02/22/08 01:42 PM
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Wasn't there someone from Ellis who was a 4x runnerup in late 90s ?

Re: Best kid never to win a state title [Re: markrat] #120557 02/22/08 02:53 PM
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Zack Allen has beaten Dusty May, Dusty Spaulding and Jeremy Long. He was also an Junior National freestyle runner up.

Re: Best kid never to win a state title [Re: jwatkins] #120561 02/22/08 02:57 PM
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 Originally Posted By: jwatkins
Two wrestlers that stand out in my mind from Wichita West were Earl Henry who finished as runner-up twice to Scott Coleman from Manhattan. Charles Knox Jr. who twice finished as runner-up twice and kept Cody Garcia from being a four timer.


Earl Henry didn't finish 2nd twice. Scott Coleman wrestled Henry once, some tall skinny white dude (sorry can't remember the name) and Aaron Lane in his 3 state finals matches. However, Henry was a bad-a. I played with him in the Shrine Bowl and I remember thinking, "wow. I bet Earl's the only one of us who makes money playing this game someday." Any idea what happened to him?

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Re: Best kid never to win a state title [Re: Jaguar] #120585 02/22/08 03:55 PM
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I believe he went to Pitt State to play football.


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Re: Best kid never to win a state title [Re: Jaguar] #120589 02/22/08 04:04 PM
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Earl Henry plays indoor football for the Wichita Wild. I believe this will be his 3rd or 4th year with the team.

Re: Best kid never to win a state title [Re: jwatkins] #120592 02/22/08 04:07 PM
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Did he play at Pitt?


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Re: Best kid never to win a state title [Re: hobbes332] #120650 02/22/08 08:25 PM
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Actually, Bechtal finish 3rd at his regional because Matt finished 2nd, and then last both years to Broeckelman in the finals.

Re: Best kid never to win a state title [Re: Ol' AC Dog] #120777 02/23/08 02:41 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Ol' AC Dog
If little Flynn (and I hope he does) doesn't win it this year. He definitely belongs on this list!!

Brett Fienne (sp) (Valley Center); Loved the 5 on 2...



Well, when you wrestle to not get pinned, like Flynn wrestling Detmer in the semis, it's kind of hard to win a state championship. But go ahead and add him to the list anyways.

Re: Best kid never to win a state title [Re: Young William 00] #120807 02/23/08 06:30 PM
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"Well, when you wrestle to not get pinned, like Flynn wrestling Detmer in the semis ... "


Are you kidding??? Did you even watch the match? Flynn wrestled to WIN the thing. He's the first guy to put Detmer on his back all year. He lost by a point and went after the win.

Ask Detmer if he thinks Flynn wrestled "to not get pinned." I'm thinking he will tell you a much different story. And I'd trust his judgement over yours any day, because Detmer's an absolute beast.

Re: Best kid never to win a state title [Re: Shark16] #120808 02/23/08 06:34 PM
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Wow, very cool. Yes, putting your opponent on HIS back is definitely not my idea of wrestling "to not get pinned". Congrads to young Mr. Flynn.


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Re: Best kid never to win a state title [Re: Young William 00] #120817 02/23/08 07:47 PM
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From my vantage point(young william, I was in Hutchinson, Kansas at the 5A tournament, were you?) Flynn gave him all he wanted. It appeared to me that Detmer wasn't too keen on even getting in the top referee's postition against Flynn. I'm more of a purist and I don't think the ol' hands on back and immediately trying to come around to a front headlock is real wrestling. Maybe when you're so strong and have relied on(and had crazy good success with) muscling the opponent then it's hard to get away from when the need arises. Sorry for the rant. I just get disappointed when such a great athlete is unable to give credit to a great competitor. What a pompous quote in the paper Kyle.

Re: Best kid never to win a state title [Re: olderigetbetteriwas] #120819 02/23/08 08:20 PM
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I stand corrected. "Young William" must be either Detmer or a relative of his, based on the quote in the eagle (thanks olderigetbetteriwas for pointing it out).

the quote is:
"I knew he was going to stall the whole time and not wrestle, and that's what he pretty much did," Detmer said. "That's what he did last year in the finals, just a defensive match trying not to get pinned."

Detmer might not be honest enough with himself to admit he was getting worked (and it should be noted that it was detmer who fled the mat at the end and took a stall).
Fortunately detmer's older, wiser and classy coach told the real story:

"But (Flynn) was up to the challenge. He was on fire, he was coming after us. He was wrestling a great match. Those things put together caused it to be a very big scare to us."

enough of the rant, but the facts are what they are.

Re: Best kid never to win a state title [Re: Shark16] #120830 02/23/08 09:13 PM
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Back to the original topic of this thread (best kid never to win a state title), anybody remember a kid named Chance Humble out of Coffeyville?

He definitely had the talent to win multiple state titles, but he never made it to the end of a season.

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