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2008 Park City - Wichita Classic #122432 03/03/08 12:22 AM
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We are pleased to announce that the number of wrestlers for the 2008 Park City - Wichita Classic is 1,266!

Based upon the entries submitted there are 112 indivudual State Champions that have won a combined 181 State Titles!

We would like to thank all of the parents, wrestlers, and clubs for this years tournament entries because without you, we could not have a great tournament.

We would also like to thank all of the clubs who are participating with the production of the classic.

Andover Jaguars
Brawlers
Carroll
ElDorado
Greater Gold Wichita
Team Haysville
Mac Wrestling
TOHK
Valley Center

Thanks Coach Wood for traveling all the way from Ulysses to help us out!

Div Bracket Total
6U 6U - 37 13
6U 6U - 40 15
6U 6U - 43 12
6U 6U - 46 17
6U 6U - 49 17
6U 6U - 52 15
6U 6U - 55 12
6U 6U - 58 7
6U 6U - 64 13
6U 6U - 67 7
6U 6U - LtHWT 7
6U 6U - HWT 3
Total 138

Div Bracket Total
8U 8U - 46 7
8U 8U - 49 16
8U 8U - 52 16
8U 8U - 55 21
8U 8U - 58 23
8U 8U - 61 20
8U 8U - 64 21
8U 8U - 67 10
8U 8U - 70 15
8U 8U - 76 12
8U 8U - 80 10
8U 8U - 88 9
8U 8U - LtHWT 11
8U 8U - HWT 5
Total 196

Div Bracket Total
10U 10U - 55 9
10U 10U - 58 9
10U 10U - 61 14
10U 10U - 64 15
10U 10U - 67 23
10U 10U - 70 25
10U 10U - 73 24
10U 10U - 76 13
10U 10U - 79 10
10U 10U - 82 15
10U 10U - 85 12
10U 10U - 90 12
10U 10U - 95 15
10U 10U - 100 13
10U 10U - 110 17
10U 10U - 120 8
10U 10U - 130 10
10U 10U - HWT 5
Total 249

Div Bracket Total
12U 12U - 64 8
12U 12U - 68 7
12U 12U - 72 13
12U 12U - 76 18
12U 12U - 80 14
12U 12U - 84 16
12U 12U - 88 11
12U 12U - 92 22
12U 12U - 96 15
12U 12U - 100 17
12U 12U - 105 11
12U 12U - 110 11
12U 12U - 115 14
12U 12U - 120 14
12U 12U - 130 14
12U 12U - 140 14
12U 12U - 150 5
12U 12U - 165 6
12U 12U - 190 6
12U 12U - HWT 4
Total 240

Div Bracket Total
14U 14U - 80 6
14U 14U - 85 9
14U 14U - 90 10
14U 14U - 95 13
14U 14U - 100 13
14U 14U - 105 14
14U 14U - 110 16
14U 14U - 115 17
14U 14U - 120 14
14U 14U - 125 23
14U 14U - 130 20
14U 14U - 135 25
14U 14U - 140 16
14U 14U - 145 10
14U 14U - 150 10
14U 14U - 155 10
14U 14U - 160 6
14U 14U - 165 9
14U 14U - LtHWT 12
14U 14U - HWT 11
Total 264

Div Bracket Total
16U 16U - 110 8
16U 16U - 115 12
16U 16U - 120 10
16U 16U - 125 13
16U 16U - 130 14
16U 16U - 135 19
16U 16U - 140 13
16U 16U - 145 9
16U 16U - 150 13
16U 16U - 155 14
16U 16U - 165 19
16U 16U - 175 11
16U 16U - 185 6
16U 16U - 215 8
16U 16U - HWT 10
Total 179

We expect to have a great day of wrestling next Saturday and look forward to seeing all of you there!

Thank You

Brian Hargrove and Steven Foster


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will entries be posted??? i would really like to see them.

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i agree...i would like to see entries


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Steve & Brian, congratulations on the numbers and good luck with the tournament.

Would you please share what efforts you and the WGSC are taking this year to address some of the concerns voiced. Please also share if any agency will be conducting a health inspection.

For all attending, good luck and best wishes.

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I have a few question on your light heavy weight classes.
8U is going to run from 89lbs to 110lbs? Why have a 21lb gap? Why not add a 95 or 100 group?
14U is going to run from 166lbs to 235lbs??? I know you are going to have a few 205lb kids in there! Why such a huge split?

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BLT,
I am speaking from memory from yesterdays data however, we always classify the heavyweights based on breaks in the weights sent in.

For example in the 8U there is a LtHWT which is actually 95# but we had one wrestler sent in at 96#'s. There is a big jump to the next closest wreslter so rather than have a 95# bracket we put the 96# wrestler together with the 95# so that the 96# wrestler would not have to give up a huge ammount of weight. We then grouped the remaining wrestlers accordingly.

I believe we did the same thing with the 14U's. I think we had one wrestler that was closer to 175# than to 205 which is the next weight class. We grouped that wrestler with the 175# wrestlers and called it LtHWT.

We actually had one wrestler in 14U by himself that was considerably heavier than all other wrestlers in 14U (I think 265?). We called his parents and they moved to the next age group to wrestle so that we would not have anyone too heavy in that weight class. He is a High School State placer and has been wrestling against upper classmen all year long. They were more than happy to move.

The heavyweight breakdowns are always the toughest decisions to make and we try our best to make the correct decisions. We made a number of phone calls yesterday to parents to discuss the tough issues with regard to the heavyweight classifications.

I have one son that faced these situations throughout his youth wrestling career and I fully appreciate your concern. Little Steven as we still call him did not like cutting weight so he wrestled wherever we put him. I think one year he weighed 220 and could have easily cut to 215 but decided to wrestle 250 and did well. He felt his speed was more important than weight.

I hope I answered your questions to your satisfaction. Of course I am giving you this information based on memory and if you wanted to contact me I could get the exact information for you.

Thank You

Steven

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S FOSTER??? Will entries be posted???

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We will post them when we get closer to the day of the tournament.

We tried posting them three years ago and were barraged by phone calls by people who wanted to move weights.

I will speak to Brian and we will pick a day to post them.

I hope you understand.

Thank You
Steven

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Two questions:
So am I understanding that a 8U LTHW the are only TWO kids that are actual 95#ers and the rest are in a real weight?
Also, if my son normally wrestles 205 and you have a combined bracket that goes all the way up to 235 could he weigh in at 209??

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i would think he should be able to weigh up to 235 if it's a combined bracket.


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Thank you

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I'm kind of confused on the 8u 95#'s becaue 95# is an actual weight class. On a previous post it says they are jumping from 88 to 110 pounds and then another one states there are only 2 95#'s. We are coming looking for the competition for our 95 pounder which has to watch what he eats the day of competition to make this weight. I guess we would like to know how many "true" 95 pounders there will be coming to Wichita.
Thanks!

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The 95lb class is 89 to 95!
They are combinding the 95 to the LTHW (which I assume is 110)!
So there could be a 89 pounder up againest a true 110 pounder!
THATS 21 POUNDS!!!
NOT COOL!
Plus there are only:
10 kids 8U 80
9 kids 8U 88
11 kids 8U LtHWT
5 kids 8U HWT

There are more then enough kids to split that bracket!
I would love to see a true 95 and 110 pound bracket at an event of this size!!!

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what is the range for 14-175

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BLT,
I believe you mis-read the other post.

The heaviest wrestler at 8U LtHWT is 96#.

We called the bracket 8U LtHWT because we added the 96# wrestler into the bracket.

There is a huge jump between the 96# wrestler and the next heaviest wrestler.

If I made it confusing I aplogize.

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so i take it from the posts that 14 u hwt is 205 to 235 ?


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what day will the entries be posted

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I want to thank Mr Foster & Mr Hardgrove for all their help resolving and answering some of the concerns that I had. I spoke to them directly and they were very helpful! I think these guys are working very hard to make this event very fair and exciting.
Thank You!

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BLT,
I have been very busy and I have not been on here much in the last couple of days.

We appreaciate you taking the time to call us and discuss the concerns that you had. You were very courteous and I want to thank you for that.

See you on Friday.

Steven

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It the day before weigh ins and the entries are not up or did I miss them?
Will there be brackets posted at weigh in Friday night?


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