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Re: Regional Assignments [Re: GregMann] #152982 12/03/09 03:27 PM
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So, the school shuts down the heat on weekends?

There is occupancy expenses but that is a lame issue-

Most likely the issue is the KSHSSA is trying to figure out the weakest 5A regional so we can have a good complaint time about 5A and 4A

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Re: Regional Assignments [Re: GregMann] #152985 12/03/09 03:37 PM
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Mill Valley Kids Tournament - 800+ wrestlers
High School Regionals - 112 wrestlers (5A/6A)


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Re: Regional Assignments [Re: Chief Renegade] #152991 12/03/09 03:59 PM
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"So, the school shuts down the heat on weekends?"
Yes, our thermostats are set back for weekends and evenings. We can override for events, but if there are no events the temp is down. Isn't this the fiscally responsible thing to do?

"There is occupancy expenses but that is a lame issue-"
Seriously? You obviously do not have a clue as to what it costs to maintain/heat a space like a 2200 seat gymnasium with exterior doors opening and closing or what it costs to operate such a facility with lights, water, toilets flushing, etc.

"Mill Valley Kids Tournament - 800+ wrestlers
High School Regionals - 112 wrestlers (5A/6A)"
Unclear as the point you are making Chief. Both events are expenses to the district. The question I would ask is what portion of the expenses for the use of the facility, equipment, etc. are reimbursed to the DeSoto school district? Here in Norton we have charged nothing for our local kids club to use the gym and nothing for the use of our wrestling room, mats, scales, locker rooms, etc. etc. I think this is as it should be. BUT, these things may become more expensive for clubs. School budgets are set in July/August and when costs increase (as our local utility rates did last month) and/or funding decreases (as has happened five times already this year) something has to give.

Re: Regional Assignments [Re: GregMann] #153001 12/03/09 06:57 PM
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What James and Greg said is exactly correct. There is no money to be made hosting a regional tournament. I take issue if even the communities of the hosts make money. The communities I have been in the last few years there are no businesses there. That is because the hosts are from such small or rural schools that there is no benefit. Last year and the year before for instance I stayed across the state line for a regional because there were no motels within 15 miles of the host city.


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Re: Regional Assignments [Re: sportsfan02] #153166 12/06/09 11:39 PM
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Since money is so tight for regionals just send 32 to 64 to state and watch the money roll in. I undertand we are in a financial crises, but someone needs to step up and get it done, the season has begun....

Re: Regional Assignments [Re: GregMann] #153226 12/07/09 08:56 PM
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KSHSAA has a lame excuse for not posting the regional information, funny that our sport takes a back seat to football. I also noticed that the basketball regional's have already been posted.

Re: Regional Assignments [Re: thunderr] #153228 12/07/09 09:35 PM
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i send an email to kshsaa asking for an update. will wait and see if an answer comes.

Oh well


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Re: Regional Assignments [Re: back in the day] #153230 12/07/09 09:48 PM
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I emailed KSHSAA last week. Terry Bowden sent me a email stating they would be out this week.

Re: Regional Assignments [Re: springboard] #153231 12/07/09 09:58 PM
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Does anyone remember it being this late previously. I never can remember the date they are supposed to be out but this seems very odd. I asked our AD if they might be having trouble finding enough host schools and he said typically when that happens they send out an email begging for volunteers. He said that hasn't happened as of last week.


Re: Regional Assignments [Re: sportsfan02] #153233 12/07/09 10:19 PM
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"Out here" we almost always know which school has been asked to host before the official announcement is made; but thus far there there has been only the sound of crickets; almost makes me think potential hosts have not yet been contacted.


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Re: Regional Assignments [Re: GregMann] #153235 12/07/09 10:46 PM
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has school administration tried to work with the community for grants for such tournaments? i know that pittsburg hosts the kids sub-district each year and does so without any help from the chamber of commerce etc. however the chamber sponsors softball and baseball tournaments every year. problem is i know all the motels and restaurants are full, the night before the wrestling tournament. yet the baseball teams rarely stay in pittsburg, they usually go across the state line to joplin. i feel the wrestling community as a whole, seems to fail to tap into some of these resources that are there. it wouldn't be hard to prove to the chamber the money that is brought in for such an event. remember the bi-centennial buck, in salina? we all know that the community makes money off of wresting, it's time to take some back.


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Re: Regional Assignments [Re: springboard] #153239 12/07/09 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted By: springboard
I emailed KSHSAA last week. Terry Bowden sent me a email stating they would be out this week.
If you received an email from Terry Bowden it would be a mystery email. There is a Rick Bowden at KSHSAA.


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Terry coaches college football somewhere.

Re: Regional Assignments [Re: wrestling67] #153241 12/08/09 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted By: wrestling67
Terry coaches college football somewhere.
University of North Alabama


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Re: Regional Assignments [Re: RichardDSalyer] #153244 12/08/09 01:14 AM
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Rick Bowden it came from kshsaa.

Re: Regional Assignments [Re: RichardDSalyer] #153246 12/08/09 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted By: RichardDSalyer
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Terry coaches college football somewhere.
University of North Alabama


That would explain why he hasn't released the regionals yet... whistle


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Re: Regional Assignments [Re: Curtis Chenoweth] #153254 12/08/09 03:33 AM
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Maybe we can get Bobby Bowden to take a job with KSHSAA as he is going to be looking for something to do...


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Re: Regional Assignments [Re: Cokeley] #153265 12/08/09 04:02 PM
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Basketball regionals have been released, But Bowling regionals have not been released yet.

So there you go- It is always good to know where you stand in life. At least we are in the same boat as bowling!


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Re: Regional Assignments [Re: back in the day] #153273 12/08/09 05:06 PM
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Back to occupancy expenses- Since I obviously don't have a clue as to how much it costs to hold an event at a gym. Can someone tell me the difference in cost between a regional basketball tournament over a 4 day period for and a one day wrestling event.


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Re: Regional Assignments [Re: back in the day] #153274 12/08/09 05:11 PM
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A regional is 2 days for MOST of the schools in Kansas.


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