Chief, why ask a question you already know the answer to? Yes, these two wrestlers have achieved alot in their High School Careers. They do deserve to be congratulated on such stellar careers. It is debateable if they are the best ever on record alone though. 15 years ago 30 match seasons were pretty common. These days we see alot of kids getting 40-50 matches a season. Coaches are getting more bang for their buck on matches and competition points. In another 10 or 15 years kids will be getting 60-75 matches a year. This record will be passed and the same debate will begin all over again. These two names will be brought up again, and deservedly so. Congratulation Ryne and Taylor on great High School Careers.

Strange tone in your response Chad. I started this thread to recognize the milestone of Moeder and Cokeley and nobody EVER said "best ever". I said "one of the best". Other posts came in as if to say that this accomplishment was somehow subsequent to others. It's not a debate! Pure math determines the number of victories by a pair of classmates.

Why the envy?????????? Just applaud and move on, or you look ridiculous.

They have more losses really? The both of them combined have 22 losses over four years. Show me another combo with that stat. also look at the competition they face i guarantee they have one of the hardest schedules of any Kansas team in history. They faced the best of the best every weekend. Ryne wrestled a Nebraska 3 timer, oklahoma and texas 3 timers so on so on for taylor also.

The Nitcher/Blair duo must be pretty close to that.

Okay even though they only had six losses compare the strength of schedule here Ryne and Taylor face some of the toughest competition in the nation. Does Goddard even travel outside of the state?

More than a few on here have highjacked the thread, which is fine...

And in another topic, a couple of posters are suggesting that we rank and seed the first place regional winners with some criteria for the openimg rounds of the state tournaments. If you seed the regional winners then I would think you would have to seed the 2nd, 3rd and 4th places to make the whole first round. The KSHSAA predetermined seeding scheme removes the subjectivity of who did what and when. No if, and, buts, howevers, and no records.

NOTE: Colorado seeds the regional winners. Nebraska use a predetermined scheme of 1 vs 4 and 2 vs 3 for the opening round. Did not look at other states

I think you could debate for a lot of tandem senior wrestlers in Kansas history:

For St. Francis in 1999:
Gabe Jenkins = 4X State Champion
Kelly Gabel = 3X State Champion, 1X Runner-up, Senior Nationals Runner-up

I'm not sure of the records because I don't have the information on both. I know Gable ended with 141 career wins in the wrestling era prior to the switch to dual and pool tournaments.


For Campus in 2005:
Josh Baldridge = (133-5), 4X State Champion (Beat Cornejo for 1 of his 4 titles), 3rd at Senior Nationals, 2nd and 4th in NJCAA at Labette CC
Joseph Cornejo = (142-7), 2X State Champion, 2X Runner-up, 4th at Senior Nationals, 3rd in NJCAA at Labette CC

A rare Ricky Bobby mistake. Gabe Jenkins was a 2-time state champion for St. Francis. Another great Sainty combo was Scott Jenkins (3-timer) and Billy Gabel (4-timer)