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You make the call - watch video #198973 02/10/12 01:56 PM
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Watch this video of a recent college dual between Ohio State and Michigan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88lKtCpwDfs

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skikayaker wrote:Yes, and the funny thing is, he didn't say he heard it. He said, "the whistle blew". If he did, he wouldn't be arguing for a reversal like his hand motion, and the Michigan website both clearly indicate. He would have been screaming, whistle, and argued only for an escape if that.

Start the video around 3:10:
http://www.flowrestling.org/video/59445 ... r-Michigan

compare:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88lKtCpwDfs

Ryan could just as easily have been arguing that there was a reversal, instead of an escape and a takedown. If so, his rationale may have been that there was an early whistle within a second or two of the reversal. He makes the reversal sign within 5 or 6 seconds of the match ending and right after that (at about :41 on the video), I seem to hear him saying, "I'm confused...what?"

What do you guys hear, if anything, between :40 and :45 on the below?

Re: You make the call - watch video [Re: smokeycabin] #198976 02/10/12 02:07 PM
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The way I saw it -

1 escape 2 takedown

or it could have been

2 reversal Michigan
1 escape - ohio state
2 takedown michigan

I did not see just 1 escape for michigan

Re: You make the call - watch video [Re: smokeycabin] #198980 02/10/12 02:30 PM
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I think Cody Olson needs to go to one of Will's officiating classes!

Why have the side official if you won't listen to him?

Sam McFee

Re: You make the call - watch video [Re: S McFee] #198983 02/10/12 02:49 PM
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WOW!! next time any of us think that the official on the mat we were coaching blew a call, just watch this video, and we should feel better, as that was brutal.

Re: You make the call - watch video [Re: L.Geyer] #199055 02/11/12 10:22 PM
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college officials are usually much better at allowing reaction time. wow. rough.

i would say
2 reversal- michigan


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Re: You make the call - watch video [Re: HEADUP] #199397 02/16/12 12:13 AM
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That was pretty darn brutal, after review of the video I would say the proper call should have been 1 escape Michigan, then 2 takedown michigan.. But I could see how the ref could have given just a 2 reversal with how fast it happened. But just one escape given was just plain blasphemy


Hey Butt-Head what did people do before they invented TV?
Don't be stupid Beavis there's always been TV, there's just more channels now.
Oh yeah, heh heh hehe... progress is cool. Heh hehe heh
Re: You make the call - watch video [Re: Chase] #199404 02/16/12 01:11 AM
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i thought maybe it was an airline commercial and they would zoom in on the head referee's face and say........"wanna get away?"


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Re: You make the call - watch video [Re: HEADUP] #199449 02/16/12 01:25 PM
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The head official obviously has a brain fart and needs a second opinion and the 2nd official can't give it. You almost have to blame the 2nd ref in this situation. The head official is trying to make the right call but with the feeback from the 2nd official only gives the one for escape.

This is something I would like to see high school official's doing more of. Confirming close points with the other official on the mat if there is one (Obviously does not work in this case).

I can see where Michigan could have gotten 1 and 2 or just 2. Could go either way, no bad call on that end.


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