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Re: Metro Results #55204 03/12/05 07:07 AM
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Hey guys Mark was NOT the official from Kansas. He and I sat together with our wives and watched the dual. The KS official was Aron Wichman. This has been a pretty good dual in the past so lets move on. There is nothing we can accomplish by calling each other names and insulting one another. We all look pretty classless by doing this. I went to this dual to see some good wrestling, which I did. I also saw some unsportsmanlike conduct not only from the athletes but from the stands as well. This high school season is over lets get going into Greco/Freestyle or start preparing for next season.

Re: Metro Results #55205 03/12/05 08:01 AM
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I was not sure, I just saw his name mentioned above, and the thought of someone calling him an idiot was a shock to me.


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Re: Metro Results #55206 03/12/05 06:03 PM
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As Dan the Man correctly stated, Mark was not the official from KS. I saw him sitting in the stands. Aron Wiechman WAS the official, and though not my favorite KS official, at least acted like an adult. Troy Brewer, on the other hand, acted unsportsmanlike and was an embarrassment to high school wrestling. The dual was a great dual, and as in all matches, someone goes home without their hand raised, but no one, and I mean no one, went home a loser! (except for Brewer who lost my respect and the respect of everyone I talked to!) Thanks for a great night to all the wrestlers and I agree with Peterson again, as much as I hate to admit it! lol Train harder, dig deep, and do the best you can! That way you are a winner either way!

Re: Metro Results #55207 03/12/05 07:31 PM
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Just courious if Brester stuck Simpson. How in the heck did Brester not stick Taplin in like ten seconds. Or did Simpson just get Caught in a freak throw or something.

Re: Metro Results #55208 03/13/05 04:17 AM
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I, like most have been thoroughly entertained by the banter on this forum. But, as for "Simpson dominating Starcher until his shoulder started hurting" I am going to have to disagree. The score was 5-0 in the SECOND PERIOD! Had Simpson not "injured" his shoulder, he would have gone to his back, and the score would have been tied 5-5. In the third period, had the MO state champ not been hurt again, he again would have been turned for possibly another 3 back points. I don't think Simpson was quite as dominant as you might think.
On a lighter note, congrats to Ross Starcher on a wonderful season and career, and to all the KS wrestlers for a great season of wrestling.


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Re: Metro Results #55209 03/13/05 06:11 AM
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simpson as not going to his back and starcher would not have turned him. simpson was dominating him, quit trying to make it sound any different. even after he was "injured" he still couldn't keep him down, simpson got the escape ... and another takedown after that! what a bunch of whiners.

Re: Metro Results #55210 03/13/05 08:46 AM
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ilander from what I've read from a number of respectable people on this site, including Randy Hinderliter who wrote his anual report, the kid was on his way to his back, and obviously the referee thought so too or he wouldn't have given the 2 points for imminant back points, you have no arguement, it has been confirmed, do yourself a favor and close your mouth.


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Re: Metro Results #55211 03/13/05 05:07 PM
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give me a break there isom and quit your whining liek the rest of them ... even injured he couldn't beat simpson ... you lost ... quit crying and close your mouth

Re: Metro Results #55212 03/13/05 05:56 PM
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wow, i didnt know explaining imminant back points to someone to correct their mistake was crying. i better check that dictionary again.


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Re: Metro Results #55213 03/13/05 06:23 PM
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no the crying is what has been going on here on this board the past week ... get over it guys. you got worked. starcher got worked. move on! its not good to dwell on it so much and to start resorting to hostility! i mean come on, the whole close your mouth thing??? i thought isom had more composure and class than that. lol

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and the imminant back points call is a judgement call ... it doesn't mean he would have definitely been put on their back. i'm glad they gave the two to starcher. but even after that starcher couldn't keep him down, and then got taken down again. you have no argument here. facts are facts, starcher got beat ... soundly.

Re: Metro Results #55215 03/13/05 08:03 PM
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Who are you ilander Simpson's girlfriend? I just got a chance to see the match, and Simpson was diffently going to his back when he started crying. But thats alright sweetheart you can look at it however you want to.

Re: Metro Results #55216 03/13/05 09:38 PM
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actually no i'm not, in fact you can find some other comments i've made regarding simpson. the point is you cry babies that do nothing but make excuses, you got your a$$es handed to you and you simply can't accept it. oh ... and simpson wasn't going over ... but you believe it however you want to

Re: Metro Results #55217 03/13/05 09:59 PM
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Actaully I really have no stake in what happened at that event, as it has been said many times the Metro is no indication of which state has a better wrestling program. In any event ilander you are the only one making a big deal out of it. The referee and many others fans (including some from Missouri) were of the impression that the kid was going to his back, whether or not he would have stayed there is irelavant. The fact that he had to cry his way out of it was enough to lose my respect in the first place. There is no doubt in my mind that Simpson is a great wrestler and that if he were 100% healthy he would be hard for anyone to beat. But here you are in a public forum saying he wasn't going to his back, when its clear that a majority of the people who actaully saw the match thought he was. No one is crying here, all they are saying is what happened, you are the only one not believing it, but I guess we'll never know because SOMEONE had the match stopped.


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Re: Metro Results #55218 03/13/05 11:43 PM
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Well put Mr. Samuels your wrestling knowledge never ceases to amaze me! lol.......Ross is a competitor and wrestles tough, congrats on the great season and career. This forum is funny! 80 people say he was going to his back while 1 says he wasnt....its funny that we can have 94 post over this.......lol!

Re: Metro Results #55219 03/14/05 01:13 AM
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Ex-tong,

maybe ilander is one of those people who still think the world is flat.


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Re: Metro Results #55220 03/14/05 02:09 AM
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Be careful with that world is still flat stuff, Ex-tong189 probably wasnt aware that its actually round.


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Re: Metro Results #55221 03/14/05 07:36 AM
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What the earth isnt flat.......what? What?

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