Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade
Clay Center vs. Goddard

The analysis that I did after State led me to choose CC as the #1 All-Class team. I am more convinced after a closer look. This is a tournament scenario and not a dual, but for the purpose of comparison I will present the weight by weight opinion.

103: Bonilla v. Roberts - GD - Large
112: Kolterman v. Martinez - CC - Slight
119/125: Singular v. Lemon - CC - Slight/Medium
130: Kolterman v. Belle - CC - Slight
135: Singular v. Selves - TIE
140: Anderson v. Houlden - CC
145: Yarrow v. Elliott - Slight edge to CC.
160: Easterberg v. Le - CC - Large
171: Davis v. Spencer - CC - Large
189: Anderson v. Beard - CC - Slight/Medium
215: Hicks v. Delp - GD - Slight
285: Woodruff - GD - Large

Awarding Tournament points in my scenario would give CC an 8-12 point advantage over GD. I ran down each SQ using commons that I could find.


Ok Chief, nice analysis but not exactly what I came up with.
You are obviously biased to Clay Center for some reason.

103 Bonilla GD over Roberts CC big.
112 Kolterman CC over Martinez GD maybe, could be a push. Martinez has wins over Locke, Prescott and Kmeic. Neither placed but both probably should have. Which ones show up.
119 Lemon GD over Chapman CC big.
125 Singular CC over Kimple GD big.
130 Kolterman CC over Belle GD small, maybe a push.
135 Selves GD over Singular CC small, at worst push.
140 Anderson CC over Houlden GD small.
145 Elliot GD over Yarrow CC small, at worst push.
152 Mitchell GD Canizzo CC push.
160 Esterberg CC over Lee GD big.
171 Davis CC over Spencer GD small to medium. Nobody beats Spencer big.
189 Beard GD over Anderson CC small. Walker beat Anderson by major and stuggled with Beard. Additionally Beard beat the kid that beat Banner who you had at # 1 before state.
215 Hicks GD over Delp CC maybe slight, but could be bigger than you think obviously. Delp got beat by Bush who was pinned by Kaylor at Newton. Kaylor stuggled to beat Hicks.
275 Woodruff GD over Converse CC big.

I have Goddard 7-4 with 3 pushes. Will give Clay Center 2 of the 3 pushes for the sake of argument making it 8-6. Even if I give another win for the sake for the sake of argument it is 7-7 at best. I hate to say it Chief but you are tripping on your analysis. Matching them up in a dual or tournament would reflect similar results based on what I have looked at. But nice try. Additionally, I heard a story about how depleted Clay Center was at Newton and I come to find out that they were pretty much at full strength only having Roberts and Yarrow out who no way would have scored enough points to over take Garden City. Additionally, Colt McElroy would not have given Garden City enough points to beat Goddard at state as he would have placed in the same spot as Hurtado at regionals and would not have scored 13 more points than Hurtado did at state which would not have been enough. Even if he beats Humphrey he losses to Witten. On the back side he losses to Norris, at best he places 3rd or 4th which would not have been enough.
Goddard is #1.