With a lot of these returns to the mat, the flash to bang is pretty instantaneous. I agree with you 19K40, the louder the sound of impact, the more likely the return to the mat could be called an illegal slam. I have always believed that the really good wrestlers have an arsenal of weapons to take their opponent back to the mat, many of which will minimize the chance of injury. I also recognize that freestyle is another story, but I do believe we are talking about folkstyle wrestling here.