Glad someone shined some light on this for me. Adversely, I am concerned now as I've apparently witnessed several illegal moves. One club is particular has shown they have no problem using illegal moves to break their opponents down. Even if they lose a point, demoralizing a kid has its obvious advantages. Some refs call 'em on it while others do nothing. I gotta think the coach must support and even teach these moves, especially when there is more than 1 kid from a club using them. Knowledge is power and I need a lot more of it.