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What are the rules for ties???? #186536 03/12/11 10:15 PM
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If there is a three man round robin that ends in all 3 kids 1-1 and no pins what is the tiebreaking?


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Re: What are the rules for ties???? [Re: skyajdad] #186537 03/12/11 10:31 PM
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Usually points or take downs I believe.

Re: What are the rules for ties???? [Re: Hovisdad] #186538 03/12/11 10:35 PM
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That is what I thought but d-3 east rewrestled the whole bracket over again. The kid that took 1st the first time ended up with third.......


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Re: What are the rules for ties???? [Re: skyajdad] #186539 03/12/11 10:50 PM
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There are rules stated in the rule book for such an event, I am not sure all the details but wrestling the bracket over again is in there.


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Re: What are the rules for ties???? [Re: Teamroper] #186540 03/12/11 10:57 PM
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Pins=4 points
tech fall
forfeit
injury default all=3
maj. dec.=2
decision =1

head to head first tiebreaker
then points from above
if no winner can be determined the bracket is rewrestled

Re: What are the rules for ties???? [Re: Packerholic492] #186541 03/12/11 11:01 PM
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my bad forfeit, injury default, and disqualification are all worth 4 points. This is Rule #10 under kids modifications

Re: What are the rules for ties???? [Re: Packerholic492] #186543 03/12/11 11:44 PM
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Rewreatling the bracket is not an option!!!
The original bracket needs to be reviewed and THOSE results need to be upheld!

Re: What are the rules for ties???? [Re: BLT] #186544 03/13/11 12:05 AM
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Re: What are the rules for ties???? [Re: BLT] #186569 03/13/11 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted By: BLT
Rewreatling the bracket is not an option!!!
The original bracket needs to be reviewed and THOSE results need to be upheld!

are you referring to a particular situation? because the bracket can absolutely be rewrestled, if a winner cannot be determined otherwise.


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Re: What are the rules for ties???? [Re: HEADUP] #186581 03/13/11 12:35 PM
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It is also a possibility that the scorekeepers forgot to keep the criteria needed on the bout slips and thus required the bracket to be rewrestled.

Re: What are the rules for ties???? [Re: sportsfan02] #186588 03/13/11 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted By: sportsfan02
It is also a possibility that the scorekeepers forgot to keep the criteria needed on the bout slips and thus required the bracket to be rewrestled.

had that happen at a tournament about 5 or 6 years ago. 3 man RR, all 1-1. it's 3 pm, long day no one wants to re-wrestle. what a mess.


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Re: What are the rules for ties???? [Re: HEADUP] #186594 03/13/11 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted By: HEADUP
had that happen at a tournament about 5 or 6 years ago. 3 man RR, all 1-1. it's 3 pm, long day no one wants to re-wrestle. what a mess.
Same situation - my solution was to offer all three wrestlers the opportunity of re-wrestling the bracket or provide all three with a gold medal. The wrestlers decision was unanimous, all three received a gold medal, and went home happy.


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Re: What are the rules for ties???? [Re: RichardDSalyer] #186597 03/13/11 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted By: RichardDSalyer
Originally Posted By: HEADUP
had that happen at a tournament about 5 or 6 years ago. 3 man RR, all 1-1. it's 3 pm, long day no one wants to re-wrestle. what a mess.
Same situation - my solution was to offer all three wrestlers the opportunity of re-wrestling the bracket or provide all three with a gold medal. The wrestlers decision was unanimous, all three received a gold medal, and went home happy.

we tried that too! the problem was 2 of the kids (dads) didn't want to share first place, they thought it was theirs, and theirs only. we ended up losing a wrestler from our club, because he nor his parents could understand how criteria worked. the tournament director offered to flip a coin, jokingly. the parents LOVED that one.


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Re: What are the rules for ties???? [Re: HEADUP] #186609 03/13/11 04:06 PM
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But this is not your avg tournament.
The results of that bracket has effect that span the entire state. The rules must be followed to the tee and no where does it say rewrestle the bracket.
If they kept track of pins and points then a winner should be figured out.

Re: What are the rules for ties???? [Re: highcrotch] #186611 03/13/11 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted By: highcrotch
But this is not your avg tournament.
The results of that bracket has effect that span the entire state. The rules must be followed to the tee and no where does it say rewrestle the bracket.
If they kept track of pins and points then a winner should be figured out.
You are mistaken. The rule is crystal clear.

In the event of a tie in a round robin, the winner will be determined based on head-to-head competition. If head-to-head competition cannot determine the winner, the winner will be determined by total points earned:
Fall, forfeit, default or disqualification - (4)
Technical fall - (3)
Major decision (8 to 14 pts) - (2)
Decision (0 to 7 pts) - (1)
If the winner still cannot be determined, the total bracket will be wrestled again. Emphasis Added


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Re: What are the rules for ties???? [Re: RichardDSalyer] #186627 03/13/11 05:16 PM
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I stand corrected! as usual!

Re: What are the rules for ties???? [Re: highcrotch] #186680 03/14/11 01:22 AM
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In the particular bracket he is talking about at East Sub-District, all three wrestlers each had a win. The win was all by decisions (none were majors or technical) --

All 3 of them would have each had one pt. therefore, resulting in a 3-way tie.

Yes, we did re-wrestle the bracket as the rules state and TRUE 1-3 was determined.


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